The gun has an rare date with an original type stock that would please any collector. Good / Very Good Arsenal Refinished Condition with many of the hand selects qualifying as Excellent. The biggest difference in this modification is the change in sight measurements to meters, round receivers instead of hexagonal ones, and an added hood for the front sight. Mosin Nagant Scout rifle, Timney trigger, scope – $550. Other than that, tough to tell with this photo. Manufactured by Tula. There is just something about seeing that Izhevsk 'triangle and arrow' on the 1933-dated barrel only about a half inch away from Jul 28, 2017 · Re: marking on Remington M91 receiver. Two things also, for more history check the underside of the rear tang if it’s ungrounded it’ll have a year and a mark, identifying the original manufacturer Jul 18, 2023 · As you have referred to it as both a M91 and M91/30. Should be a 2 number date mark there to tell date of receiver. Year of Manufacture: 1941. the "r" after 1927 is "G" in Russian Cyrillic alphabet, it stands for "goda" which means year. 1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша". 40. All the original Russian markings are removed from the barrel shank. WWII Sako Finnish M39 1939 Mosin Nagant 7. SERIAL NUMBER 9130471383. Any safer or more valuable. The serial numbers on a mosin don't tell us much. I found the following at MosinNagant. It comes complete with sling, oiler, ammo pouch, tools, bayonet, cleaning rod, and pouch. No stock inletting needed (unless you are using a Boyd’s replacement stock). I miss the early 2000s. 62x54R Hex Bolt Rifle, 1942 C&R. rocksolidind. The rear sight is identical to the earlier Soviet version. Capacity: 5 Round Internal Magazine. Any rifles or carbines with a hex receiver and a barrel date after 1936 were built on older receivers. Oh and all are matching and there is one Tula hammer on the bolt and many Izhevsk markings as well. 00 - Used OTHER MODEL IZHEVSK 91/30 MOSIN NAGANT 1932 7. Mosin Nagant 91/30 hex receiver sight markings Post by frankl150 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:35 pm I have a new 1932 Mosin Nagant 91/30 and am wondering how to read/convert the numerical markings on the sight. Hence, the title Mosin Nagant is given. I’ll tell you that it’s a Tikka made Finnish Mosin Nagant, would need to see a little more before I can identify model but it has the old konovalov rear sight ,ungrounded mind you. 6 cm) Stock length -- 43 1/4" (109. 62x54r. Hex receivers can be much older than the barrel date, in your case 1933. This ex-Dragoon Mosin-Nagant features a hex receiver, a sling and the cleaning rod. Rarely a third date may be appended as well. VT. Ours is dated 1924. The following marks are typical: Built on a Russian Hex receiver. Condition: New In Box. The Three Line Rifle, Model of 1891 (bore diameter, a 'line' equaling one tenth of an inch) is the official This Mosin Nagant Scope Mount features: 3 mounting points (two on the top forward part of the receiver and one on the left side of the receiver in the stripper clip guide area). Year of manufacturer – 1927. Izhevsk hex receiver. Finnish tang markings can be any Russian or Soviet marks. Feb 14, 2021 · Good evening everyone, I'm seeking help identifying a couple of marks on my Mosin 91/30. For detailed information on the production years of The first mounting system was a hex shaped affair that mated with the hex receiver and mounted the scope on the centerline of the bore. Model 38. The second mark is a triangle with what appears to be the number "1" in it. Thanks to all who weighed in on this vs the 1944 M91/30 that I was looking at as well. 1927 year, means the date of manufacture. Jan 21, 2015 · Re: got a 1926 hex mosin. bottom of page "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. Aztec International used a small import mark on the receiver with a new serial number that begins with the model designation. This gun was freshly imported a few months ago. Reply reply Anyone knows what these markings are on my 1933 Tula m91/30 hex receiver? 3 comments. Soviet M91/59 carbines are 40 1/2" long, cut down from M91/30s, and have the following feature: Long rear sight leaf with higher numbers milled off. Mosin-Nagant From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Mosin-Nagant (Russian: Винтовка Мосина) is a bolt-action, five-round, magazine fed, military rifle that was used by the armed forces of Imperial Russia and later the Soviet Union and various Eastern bloc nations. I have become fascinated by the variety of Mosin Nagant rifles that have come available lately, but have some confusion about how the front top of the hex receivers were originally marked on post revolution manufactured rifles. The Finnish army undertook a project to reline worn out M91 barrels in 1925. The receiver bears markings indicating its past history as an Austrian captured M91 from the First World War. Russia M91/30 7. The rifle is dated 1932 and is a hex receiver. These are known as the "P-Series" with markings of P-26 and P-27 on the barrel shank with the numbers indicating the year. If you post a Mosin sniper rifle here, we may or may not move it to the sniper forum. I noticed it looks like it was marked twice. On Facebook? Check out the non-sporter preservationist group at: OOOPS. Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. Oct 7, 2015 · The non-counterbored Tikka barrel is Finn matched to the bolt handle and stamped on the left side with “7. May 8, 2023 · Mosin Nagant M91/59 7. M91/59s are cut down from Izhevsk and Tula M91/30s and some are "sanitized". However, there is at least one recorded case when such a barreled receiver were used outside of repair depots. A mid war rifle with a hex receiver is actually a somewhat rare rifle. Jul 24, 2016 · Spotted a 1923 Izhvesk Mosin Nagant Ex Dragoon at a local gun store for $320. Action Type: Bolt Action Rifle with 5 round Fixed Magazine. 62x54r – $475. Location: NJ. I know the hex mosins are more sought after, but is there any functional difference between the ones with round vs hex receivers? I am looking at picking one up right after christmas, and I can grab a round receiver 91/30 for $119 or a hex 91/30 for $139. 62X54R PENNY AUCTION! Sold Location: Copperas Cove, TX 76522 Sold Date: 5/22/2024 12:00:00 AM Historic Tula Manufacture M91/30 Dragoon Era Mosin Nagant Rifle w/ Hex Receiver, 5rd bolt action - 7. There are tons of other little punch marks and symbols on it like three crylic letters under the forestock and various marks on the bolt/receiver. Happy with it as my first Mosin and even though she isn't perfect and no rare $1000 rifle it gives me this: as I sit here with it in my lap I am smiling. Email. Phone: (660) 259-2832. Thank you guys! "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. Oct 27, 2012 · "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. 62x54R, w/Bayonet and accoutrements. #8. No trades, no delivery, will not ship. However, many are known and they often reveal a lot about the individual rifle. Nov 29, 2006 · In 1943, The Izhevsk Arms Factory completed 50,000 new carbines to address these concerns. 1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина". Model: 1939 (M39) Serial Number: 201912. Mosin Museum. net, which describes the Tikka "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. SOLD FOR: $1135. Receiver #2. Includes spike bayonet, I also have the sling, ammo pouch and cleaning kit that came with the rifle. These are all the highly desirable and very collectible Dragoon Era Rifles with Tula This could prevent not only a potential financial loss, but the loss of an opportunity to add a truly rare firearm to a collection. Caliber/Gauge: 7. Mar 29, 2016 · 14019 posts · Joined 2011. reply share. COLOR BLUE. 62X54R HEX RECEIVER MATCHING WW2 WWII Sold Location: Salem, OR 97304 Sold Date: 6/2/2024 12:00:00 AM: $372. You can't really generalize Mosin values and prevalence by just saying "hex receivers were made for 45 years therefore they're not worth more". General Specifications. I. Visible Numbers and Markings . the m91 dragoon rifle was made alongside the m91 rifle. net, the 1940’s Tikka barreled M39s are an 8 of 10 on the rarity scale, so not your everyday Sako or VKT. I can send more photos upon request. I'm assuming it's the original stock as its walnut, military config has been re-worked on forend including metal tip, and no barrel band cutouts. 62x54mm cartridges, which also serves as a feed lip and ejector. The Dragoon is at its core a basic Mosin Nagant mechanism. FOR SALES OUTSIDE THE U. 62x54R Russian – $600. Caliber: 7. receiver, another with a dimple on the receiver consistent with a Finn m39 receiver etc. It's longer than an M44, but a little shorter than an M91/30. The two marks I need information on is the diamond that has an "x" in the center of it. This is the way Tula Arsenal marked Mosin Nagant barrels and receivers from 1892 until 1912. Matching serials. Restocking fee: 10%. A 1917-built Tula hex receiver (now) 91-30 that made its way through the Izhevsk production line in 1933. I believe it has a laminated stock. The numerous markings and proofs found on Mosin rifles can be overwhelming to the new collector. 11632 Marshall School Road. Just got back from the local gun show and picked up this beautySo excited, my first Hex. Markings: The import mark on the barrel reads “C. Geltz factory. All graduations are on top of the leaf from 1 to 20 representing hundreds of meters. Tula quit producing hex receivers in 1936 so your mosin has a recycled receiver. Jan 14, 2022 · A few examples were a 91/30 with a recycled hex receiver that had slots cut for a Finnish winged bolt connector, a hex M44 with a civil guard number, a hex 91/30 with a civil guard marked. Model: M91/30 Hex Receiver. It is impossible to include every possible combination of features in this list. 1927 Izhevsk Plant markings. Thinking about picking it up, is it a good deal? 1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena". 5 1938-1941 Three Line Rifle, Model of 1891. Now I was told that in 1930, the guns were redesigned and the hex receivers Re: Hex receiver date. 2. by 4816 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:42 am. They recycled lots of receivers then so a 1916 receiver on with a 1920 barrel makes perfect sense. Jul 26, 2018 · Here are the key details: 91/30 Mosin-Nagant. Serial#: 224005. Just bought my first Mosin-Nagant a 91/30 with a round receiver. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it. #12 · Dec 3, 2018. Mosin Nagant with one of a kind, adjustable stock – $600. 62X54R CALIBER, WE HAVE JUST ACQUIRED A FULL The Tsarist eagle with the acceptance ПK marks are both on barrel and receiver. May 13, 2012 · "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. Manufacturer: Imported by Century, Izhevsk or Tula. ALB. Someone please enlighten me on what makes the hex one worth more. We have some of the best experts here looking forward to your questions. Model: Jalkavakikivaari M39, Ukko-Pekka. I never really took a look at the receiver tang marking until recently. -Tula 1934 Mosin Nagant 91/30 Hex Receiver Rifle, Russian mfg, 7. 1935 Tula Hex CN marked. You can find a very good example of a Tsarist era Tula Arsenal M1891 rifle in our Nations and Models section. Spike bayonet included. Essentially The Model 1944 ( karabin obrazets 1944 goda in phonetic Russian), or M44 as it is widely known, was a model 1938 carbine with a non-detachable folding bayonet added to it. I used a bore brush on the bore and cleaned it using a liquid bore cleaner after several . Heading 2. My son has an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 91-30 rifle with a hex receiver dated 1933r. 62x54mmR. Shipping fees are non-refundable. When you look down the barrel from the receiver end and the groove where the extractor slides under the shell rim is still sharp The only thing that I can tell from your picture is that your stock is war-time production. I fully intend on shooting mine so I'm not too concerned about the value. Hex receiver 91/30's have always gone for more than round. As such it is a cock-on-open rotating bolt action rifle, with a single stack internal box magazine. Trades Accepted: And so the Mosin chapter begins… Bought the Mosin 1891 Tula Peter the Great 1914 Finnish capture from LGS for $550 OTD. by racerguy00 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pm. The date on Russian rifles will be followed by a Cyrillic character that means “year”. Order desk hours: Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Let me know if you have any questions. Markings: The top of the barrel shank is marked with a faded proof, a Sako Dec 24, 2018 · 6678 posts · Joined 2017. 62x54R Aztec Ocala FL. Mosin Dragoon All future Mosin receivers are round and no hex receivers are known to have been produced after 1936. Product of the first joint development effort of the Finnish Regular Army and Oct 8, 2016 · Hex 91/30 rifle with all accoutrements but no scope, no mount, no bent bolt, no sight tool. Izhevsk made M91/30 PU snipers in 1947 and a handful of 1946 dated infantry rifles have been reported. #1 · Dec 24, 2018. its going to be easy to figure out if you post photo of markings on barrel shank. Hex receivers are stronger because they are are made from more metal, but unless you are preforming some kind of torture test the difference is meaningless. Mine is a 1926 ex dragoon 91/30. Scarce would be a more appropriate term. Aug 27, 2012 · Location: NC. If your looking to purchase our products outside the United States click the link below. Last Updated: 2/4/2024. by jloop10 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:01 pm. Below are examples of early configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. Thanks, this is a strange one as it's cut down a few inches. What a rifle with a story! They are no longer importing Mosin Nagants. 3 kg) Length (over all) -- 46 3/4" (118. The arrow in a triangle is the arsenal mark for Izhevsk. In the case of Izhevsk barrel rifles I have seen 1)no-marks, 2)the Izhevsk hammer All future Mosin receivers are round and no hex receivers are known to have been produced after 1936. 1935 to 1945. 1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда". Even back when I bought my '43 $355. Nov 20, 2007 · Generally speaking, the Round receivers started in 1936, so any arsenal 1936 or earlier would be Hex, and now jobbers are charging a premium for them (they didn't at first!) and Tula production was less than Izhevsk (mainly due to the interruption of WWII and the fact that Tula made most of the SVD 38 and 40 rifles, so cut back severely on 91/ Jan 3, 2015 · My first Mosin - Model 91/30 1933 Tula Hex. The new carbine was well received by soldiers at the front. We need a picture of the markings on the barrel shank and tang date on the receiver. There was only one mark on the reciever and that was on top of the tang. Theodore Roosevelt. Our scope mounts use the same top two mounting points as some similar mounts on the market. Bought this 1933 Tula hex receiver three weeks ago. . Primary serial numbers on Mosin Nagant rifles, like most European firearms, are on the barrel, rather than the receiver as in the United States. It came into use in late 1942 and replaced the "Puolustuslaitos" mark for obvious reasons. 62X54MMR rifle is a Soviet bolt-action rifle that was Customer pays all shipping fees. 10 years ago. 62 x 54R. The Finnish SA property mark stands for Suomen Armeija, or Finnish Army, and is one of the most recognizable marks on Mosin Nagants. Much like other Finnish weapons, variations exist, a few later M91's have been found fitted with a round receiver (very rare). Add a Comment. Oct 1, 2018 · 14270 posts · Joined 2004. S/N 9130-9641. Cash only. 62X54R”. It was manufactured by three Russian and three "foreign" arsenals. Mar 31, 2012 · 1935 Tula Hex CN marked. Oct 26, 2012 · "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. Is there any advantage as far as shootability is concerned. Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft. Jul 16, 2010 · The "hex receiver" (which is actually better referred to as a "half-octagonal" receiver) with its intensive machining at precise angles was dropped in favor of a more easily machined round receiver borrowed from the original trials rifles submitted by Col. 1920 is a pretty uncommon date. They are all in very good-excellent condition, there will be handling marks here and there on wood and metal finishes. This a Russian M91, the original design of the Mosin Nagant. #4 · Mar 29, 2016 (Edited) My favorite is a hex. According to forum member Ratnik, who has researched and written extensively on 91/30 production, this is the abbreviation for учебно- боевая. In the autumn of 1941 approximately 2,000 M91/30 rifles and 1,000 M38 carbines were assembled in besieged Leningrad at the M. Feb 19, 2024 · Mosin - Nagant 91/30, 1927 with Hex receiver. com. These barreled receivers and their markings are described in the section factory markings. by Mountain Man » Sun May 13, 2012 1:05 pm. This bolt action rifle was a shortened version of the M 1891. Secondary serial numbers are found in three other locations on the majority of Mosin Nagants. Strong rifling. Though brand new to this site, I have 4 Mosins - and a 5th on the way - but know very little about identification. Hex receivers were made up to 1936. The Mosin Nagant 91-30 was the primary Soviet infantry rifle from 1930 to 1945. Aug 10, 2021 · Description: If you're a Mosin-Nagant aficionado and looking for that special Mosin M1891-30 Ex-Dragoon in very high condition and plenty of accessories, look no further here it is. 62X54r with shared design from Sergei Mosin of Russia, and Leon Nagant of Belgium. Although it is common, it is by no means universal on Finnish built Mosin Nagants and it's location, size, and orientation Jul 20, 2023 · "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. A hex M91 is worth more/less common than a hex 91/30. Also, will be able to tell more info if you send photo of date under the top "tang" of receiver where screw goes into the stock. ” and “M39 FINLAND 7. Item #: 902204584. MOSIN NAGANT MODEL M91/30 (HEX RECEIVER) (CIRCA 1925/1926) IN 7. (4. As pictured in the heading, this may be followed by a slash (/) and a two-digit year date (the example pictured is 52). The receiver can be found from all manufactures and all dates, the hex receiver being widely used. ago. This one was manufactured in1928 at the Russian Izhevsk Armory, model M1891-30 with a hex receiver, Serial #24045, a 30” barrel, bolt action, chambered in 7. CONDITION EXECELENT OVER ALL CONDITION. Model M39 Rifle - General Description: Weight -- 9 1/2 lbs. You answered 1891-1925. According to 7. In spite of the difficulties, an attempt has been made to create a guide to the rarity of various Mosin Nagant models and variations. Lexington, MO 64067. "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. customerservice@www. The depicted rifle is an excellent example of a Finnish wartime production M91 made by Tikka in 1941. "1891/59" is stamped on the barrel and easily recognizable. $125 out the door with little to no cosmoline to clean off!! I bought this Tula a long time ago because wanted to get a hex receiver. Often the meaning is unknown even to the most knowledgeable researchers. I was offered an upgrade to a 91/30 with a hex receiver, made before 1935. NA. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. Remington Mosin Nagant 91/30 7. Once in 35 and then a 36. Leave it as it is. But personally, as a student of history, I find the 1927 manufacture date compelling. Mar 25, 2020 · To begin with is the obvious large date on the barrel shank. Caliber Russian 7. , WITH 30" BARREL. 00 - Used OTHER MODEL IZHEVSK 1891 MOSIN NAGANT HEX RECEIVER 7. The one thing Finland would reuse is the receiver. Nice 1926 Izhevsk ex dragoon Soviet post WW2 refurbished M91/30 with a reused receiver. Basically they either had left over receivers or they had a rifle damaged beyond repair so they made use of every intact part they could including the They represent a block of 9,999 rifles and were apparently assigned at random. Early Date Rifles, Arsenal Refinished,. I am picturing a rough handed factory worker 1936 to 1944. A hex 91/30 is worth more/less common than a round 91/30. Izhevsk round receiver. -Smmons (old but it works just fine) 4x12x40 scope and Weaver rings. The hex shape used more metal and took slightly longer to make, which is why the Soviet government switched to rounded receivers later in the war. Rifles are Packed in Light Cosmoline. mhiggi05 • 5 yr. The one I have before me is dated 1934, Bolt and receiver are matched but has a mismatched mag. Caliber 7. 62X54R (Russian) Barrel Length: 28 3/4" / 73 cm. bright bore. Is exhibits the typical Finnish production spliced M91 stock, and also the spliced butt-stock toe. 1930 to 1935. 5 1938-1941 Oct 1, 2023 · The Design. This centerline mount was later adapted to the round receivers. 62x54R (Rimmed) Action Type: Bolt Action, Fixed Magazine. All serial numbers match on the piece except the number on the bolt, and that number is only a few digits off from the others. Thanks. Lots of turmoil going on during the Russian civil war then. May 13, 2012 · 1934 Mosin. Aug 10, 2013 · Mosin nagant receiver markings. 9 cm) World War II era bolt action infantry rifle. The magazine features an interrupter that is intended to prevent rimlocking of the 7. The left side of the receiver is marked “1”. I understand Mosin’s don’t float the boats of too many collectors. The Finnish M91/30 is a direct copy of the Soviet model utilizing primarily captured parts. The rifle has no Izhevsk factory proofs or acceptance Nov 8, 2021 · There is another neat milling operation that we will take a look at in a followup video! Tula also had some interesting variants during the war that will be They are no longer importing Mosin Nagants. Not counter-bored. Tank. MOSIN NAGANT M91/30 (HEX RECEIVERS) IN 7. eddie0225. 62X54R CAL. M1891 (M91) : In 1891, Russia adopted a repeating bolt action infantry rifle in 7. The Mosin-Nagant M91/30 7. Any thoughts from long time shooters Jun 24, 2017 · The example we have in the armory is a Hex receiver with markings for the Izhevsk Ordnance Factory 1919-1928. 5 1938-1941 1891-1925 1926-1927 1940-1943 No date . Prototypes with M91/30 style rear sights were built concurrently with Dragoons from 1927 to 1929. Finland Mosin Nagant. The Imperial Tula Arsenal Peter the Great markings: 1912 – 1918 Feb 4, 2024 · View over 100 different Mosin markings in high resolution! top of page. The rifle that you will receive will MOST LIKELY be an Izhevsk manufactured during the 1920's-1930's, HOWEVER there is a chance that you will receive a TULA from the Dec 20, 2006 · 1. May 10, 2011 · RUSSIAN HEX RECEIVER M91/30 MOSIN NAGANT 7. The 91/30's weren't made until 1935 though. It looks like it has 2 different sized stars too. Best. The barrel length is 30 and a half inches so it has not been cut down so i am guessing that makes it a m91. Yes, the tang IS double-dated. edit - Because rounded receivers were made Rock Solid Industries. History. All future Mosin receivers are round and no hex receivers are known to have been produced after 1936. The M91 can be found in many configurations. WW1 1915 Westinghouse M91 Mosin Nagant – $700. 62x54R caliber. Stock Cartouches . S. Later mounting systems for the PE and PE/PEM series were side mounts that attached to a base affixed to the left side of the receiver. The more commonly encountered markings are shown here with brief explanations of their meanings. 7 cm) Barrel Length -- 27" (68. In English it basically translates as training/fighting. -Bent bolt and original bolt with matching serial #. I can't believe I used to cherry-pick mosin rifles (hex receivers, ex snipers, Finnish captures, etc) from big box gun stores like Dunhams for $75 to $100 each. by Junk Yard Dog » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:30 am. From what I can tell, it came from the Tula factory and all numbers including bayonet match and show no sign of being re stamped. If it is an ex-dragoon, I have seen them recently for $125 to $200 recently. 62X54R VERY GOOD Description: Firearm that you will receive with this is pulled straight from a surplus crate. by Pet_My_Mosin » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:51 pm. P-25 markings have been reported but not confirmed. Posts: 20. The receiver tang marking has the Izhevsk Bow and Arrow proof that was used pre-1928 and of course is dated 1924. I will post a pic of the mark on the tang and some extra markings on the bolt i found. Model 91/30, meaning a Model 1891 updated to 1930 configuration. 62x53R”, “3600” and “SA”. A. ST. NICE Polish M44 Mosin Nagant Carbine 7. Sergei Mosin and Belgian designer Leon Nagant in 1891. The matching numbers was a nice bonus. $250. To my way of thinking, most Mosin-Nagant rifles Jul 3, 2012 · Here are the unusual features: Barrel is Уч/Б marked in an unusual font. Year of Manufacture: 1942, C&R. 62x54R. One exception is a few 1937 rifles built on 1936 receivers. 62x51R – $750. You can rest assured your Mosin-Nagant has been fired very little when you can still see the machine marks on the receiver in the area where the bolt latches. ogligefhwmaqiaichzag